Legislature(2011 - 2012)BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)

04/09/2012 01:30 PM Senate JUDICIARY


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
= HB 229 BIG GAME COMMERCIAL SERVICES BOARD
Moved CSHB 229(JUD) Out of Committee
= HB 274 UNFAIR TRADE PRACTICES
Moved HB 274 Out of Committee
+ HB 224 SALES OF NICOTINE PRODUCTS TO MINOR TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 55 KNIVES, GRAVITY KNIFE & SWITCHBLADE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
           HB 224-SALES OF NICOTINE PRODUCTS TO MINOR                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:36:15 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  FRENCH announced  the  consideration of  HB  224, "An  Act                                                               
prohibiting the sale or gift  of a product containing nicotine to                                                               
a minor under certain conditions."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:36:29 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE PAUL SEATON,  sponsor of HB 224,  stated that this                                                               
legislation addresses the  issue that state law  does not prevent                                                               
companies from  selling or giving products  that contain nicotine                                                               
to minors. He reported that  tobacco companies are test marketing                                                               
nicotine-laced products  like water, candy  lozenges, toothpicks,                                                               
and hand  wipes in  four states.  The bill is  an effort  to keep                                                               
these products  from appearing on  retail shelves  across Alaska,                                                               
because they  are designed  to get kids  addicted to  nicotine so                                                               
they will switch to tobacco  products. The bill does not preclude                                                               
a  medical professional  from prescribing  nicotine, and  it does                                                               
not  prevent a  parent  or guardian  from  providing nicotine  to                                                               
their children.  He concluded that  these products should  not be                                                               
allowed to circulate in Alaskan communities.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He said most venders can verify  age by scanning IDs and DHSS has                                                               
indicated it  should not  be a problem  to incorporate  this into                                                               
their current education program. In  addition, it is a complaint-                                                               
driven process  so the  penalty for an  infraction would  be much                                                               
like a speeding ticket.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:39:53 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR FRENCH  asked him  to confirm that  the products  he showed                                                               
the committee are not currently sold in Alaska.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON said  that  is correct;  the samples  came                                                               
from Oregon, one of the  test market states, but nothing prevents                                                               
their  sale  in  Alaska.  Responding  to  further  questions,  he                                                               
explained that  both synthetic  and tobacco-derived  nicotine are                                                               
addictive, but the U.S. Food  and Drug Administration (USFDA) can                                                               
only regulate use in tobacco products.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:41:28 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR FRENCH asked for an  explanation of Sec. 11.76.109(a)(2) on                                                               
page 1, lines 10-11.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON explained  that  subsection (a)  prohibits                                                               
the sale  or gift of  a product  containing nicotine to  a minor.                                                               
Paragraph  (1)  specifically  addresses  the sale  of  a  product                                                               
containing nicotine to  a person under age 19,  and paragraph (2)                                                               
specifically addresses  gifting a product containing  nicotine to                                                               
a person under age 19.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH  reviewed  the exceptions  in  subsection  (b)  and                                                               
questioned  linking  paragraphs (1),  (2),  and  (3) with  "and."                                                               
Doing so  would keep a  parent from giving  a nicotine-containing                                                               
product to their  child unless it was USFDA  approved for tobacco                                                               
cessation.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON responded that the  intent is that a parent                                                               
can give their child a  tobacco cessation device, or a pharmacist                                                               
can prescribe and delivered it.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH  asked if he  was trying  to outlaw a  parent giving                                                               
their child  the nicotine-laced water but  allow giving Nicorette                                                               
gum.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON reiterated the intent.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH  said he was trying  to make sure that  everyone was                                                               
reading  the  bill  the  way  he  was  reading  it.  He  reviewed                                                               
subsections (c), (d), and (e) and had no further questions.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:45:19 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COGHILL asked if there is a safe level of nicotine.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  replied all  of the  medical professionals                                                               
consulted indicated  there is no  constructive use  for nicotine.                                                               
He  noted  that the  Department  of  Health and  Social  Services                                                               
(DHSS) may have something to add.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL wondered if an  energy drink might contain a safe                                                               
level of nicotine.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:46:32 PM                                                                                                                    
MARY JANE  SHOWS, staff to  Representative Paul Seaton,  said her                                                               
research  indicated that  the only  products  that have  nicotine                                                               
added are the ones the sponsor mentioned.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL asked  how a  hand wipe  might cause  a nicotine                                                               
addiction.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SEATON  explained   that  nicotine   enters  the                                                               
bloodstream through the pores of the skin.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:47:46 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  offered  the committee  information  about                                                               
nicotine that he gleaned from Wikipedia.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   PASKVAN   asked   if   tobacco   company   subsidiaries                                                               
manufacture these products.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON said that was his understanding.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH asked  Ms. Casto  when  she first  became aware  of                                                               
these nicotine-laced products.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DIANE CASTO,  Prevention Manager, Division of  Behavioral Health,                                                               
Department   of  Health   and   Social   Services  (DHSS),   said                                                               
information about  recreational nicotine products has  cropped up                                                               
in the course of her job  for the last several years. She offered                                                               
her  personal  opinion that  tobacco  companies  are looking  for                                                               
additional  ways  to  market their  product  as  cigarette  usage                                                               
drops.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH asked where nicotine gum falls in the spectrum.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CASTO explained  that gum and nicotine  patches are primarily                                                               
used as tobacco cessation products.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH  reviewed  the  exception   in  paragraph  (1)  and                                                               
observed  that  the  gum  has  been approved  by  the  USFDA.  He                                                               
reviewed the  exception in paragraph  (2) and asked  if "approved                                                               
purposes" means tobacco cessation.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. CASTO  said yes.  She relayed that  the USFDA  recognizes the                                                               
potentially  large market  for  these  new recreational  nicotine                                                               
products,  and is  committed to  finding a  way to  appropriately                                                               
monitor and regulate the usage.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH asked if she was  aware of trace amounts of nicotine                                                               
in the marketplace.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CASTO  replied  she  couldn't say  with  certainty  but,  in                                                               
general, nicotine is not being put into products right now.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:53:16 PM                                                                                                                    
EMILY  NENON,  Alaska  Government  Relations  Director,  American                                                               
Cancer  Society  (ACS),  Cancer   Action  Network  (CAN),  stated                                                               
support of HB  224. It will close a loophole  in the statutes and                                                               
will  help  protect kids  from  some  of  the new  and  dangerous                                                               
products coming  on the market.  Every month she hears  about new                                                               
and creative ways  the tobacco industry has  developed to deliver                                                               
nicotine.  She warned  the committee  to remain  vigilant against                                                               
predatory  products and  practices that  entice kids  into deadly                                                               
addictions.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:54:39 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR FRENCH asked if the $300  fine provided in the bill was the                                                               
same as the fine for selling cigarettes to a minor.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. NENON deferred the question to Ms. Casto.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. CASTO explained that a  certification is required in order to                                                               
sell  tobacco and  when there  is a  violation of  selling to  an                                                               
underage person there  are two potential actions. One  is to fine                                                               
the clerk  that sold  the tobacco  $300 on  a first  offense, and                                                               
incrementally higher  on subsequent  offenses. The  second option                                                               
is  to penalize  the  owner of  the  establishment by  suspending                                                               
tobacco sales for  up to 20 days on a  first offense, although it                                                               
can be mitigated down to a  minimum of 10 days. Again, the number                                                               
of days  that tobaccos  sales are  suspended increases  with each                                                               
subsequent offense.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH observed  that the  bill takes  a different  scheme                                                               
since there  is no license to  suspend; it will essentially  be a                                                               
fine against the vender.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. CASTO  said that was  her understanding. She added  that part                                                               
of the DHSS  tobacco enforcement program is to  train and educate                                                               
sellers  of tobacco  products  about new  and  changing laws.  If                                                               
these new  products enter  Alaska, it would  not be  difficult to                                                               
incorporate them into the program.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH asked  if this  bill might  prevent those  products                                                               
from entering the Alaska market entirely.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. CASTO  replied that  was her hope.  She opined  that limiting                                                               
the  ability  to sell  the  products  to minors  would  certainly                                                               
reduce the draw.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH  commented  that  it's a  good  reminder  that  the                                                               
products could still be sold to adults.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR PASKVAN asked if nicotine-laced water is flavored.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. CASTO surmised that would be the case.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:00:45 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR FRENCH  noted the press  relief from the Harvard  School of                                                               
Public  Health that  talked about  dissolvable nicotine  that can                                                               
lead to accidental  poisoning in infants and youths.  He asked if                                                               
she had reviewed any of that material.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. CASTO said  she had not done any in-depth  research but it is                                                               
an addictive  substance and little  bodies would  be particularly                                                               
vulnerable.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:01:39 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  FRENCH  closed  public  testimony   and  held  HB  224  in                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON noted the  added provision that subjects an                                                               
employer to a $300 fine for  failure to advise their employees of                                                               
this prohibition.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                

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